Loren Mosher, M.D. and Robert Whitaker visit Zuzu's Place:

The Truth about “Schizophrenia”

On November 4, 2003, Dr. Loren Mosher and author, Robert Whitaker, were interviewed by Dr. Daniel Kriegman at Zuzu's Place in Whitman, Massachusetts. The interview lasted several hours and was videotaped. During the course of this in-depth discussion, Loren and Bob provided an extensive overview of what is known from the scientific study of “Schizophrenia,” its causes, prognosis, and treatment. The interview was edited down to 2 1/2 hours to create a rather remarkable video that will challenge many of your beliefs about “mental illness.”

Louis Wain's ''Schizophrenic Cats''Despite the credentials of the speakers and their extensive knowledge of the subject, the claims they make that challenge accepted conventional wisdom may be hard to believe. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

So, for a detailed exploration of the empirical evidence supporting the statements made by the speakers, go to our discussion of the controversy generated by Tom Cruise on The Today Show.

It is true that Scientology (in a disguised form known as CCHR, the "Citizen's Commission on Human Rights") uses a crusade against psychiatry to recruit folks. And this could be (and has been) used to dismiss Tom's remarks as just some more lunacy from a bizarre cult.

Yet, in our discussion of the controversy he generated, you will find numerous videos, graphics, and additional links to mainstream media sources (The New York Times, NPR, PBS Frontline, ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, and BBC News), suits by Attorneys General of numerous American states, and actual articles published in, again mainstream, medical and scientific journals validating every specific, factual claim made in our video by two world class experts on the history of schizophrenia and its treatment.

And though we in no way support Scientology, yes, much of what Tom Cruise said was also correct!

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(NTSC 2009; Runtime 2 hrs. 58 min.)

The Truth about “Schizophrenia”

Loren Mosher, M.D. and Robert Whitaker visit Zuzu's Place

Just how flimsy are psychiatric diagnoses?

For an illustration of the "incredible shrinking validity" of psychiatric diagnoses, note that nowadays the diagnostic label “Bipolar Disorder” or “Manic-Depressive Illness” is gaining in popularity for the same constellation of symptoms that used to garner the label "Schizophrenia." Many mental hospitals are now admitting mostly “Bipolar” patients. The problems haven’t changed; these are mostly the same people who would have been diagnosed with “Schizophrenia” a decade or two ago.

Bipolar Disorder has now even been popularized for very young children who are being put on powerful, dangerous neuroleptics. This incredibly lucrative, diagnostic fad was popularized by a leading psychiatrist who was hiding massive drug company payments in violation of research rules.

The incredible flimsiness of psychiatric diagnoses is demonstrated in the video, “Being Sane in Insane Places.” On the same page, you will find a 2008 PBS Frontline program on drugging children. And you can also take a look at the New York Times articles exposing the unethical behavior of the creator of the childhood bipolar fad.

       The Truth About “Schizophrenia” is, in part, our response to the inability of most mainstream reporters and scientists to “connect the dots” and fully realize what the evidence indicates. It is our hope that this video can help the viewer get an overview of what is known about the constellation of emotional distress, cognitive breakdown, and frightening behavior that is often diagnosed as “Schizophrenia.” Psychiatric labels themselves can be terribly damaging; yet the public has no idea that they are “fad-driven” and are powerfully influenced by Big Pharma and others whose self interests lie with particular diagnostic predilections. The basis for psychiatric disorders is incredibly flimsy (see side box).

       Unfortunately, these mainstream media sources are incapable of reaching the logical conclusion to which their own stories, reports of legal settlements, and scientific journals inexorably point: The standard, now accepted approach to “mental health treatment” is often terribly damaging. The dominance of this destructive treatment paradigm is largely based on pseudoscience maintained by an alliance between Big Pharma and those psychiatrists whose identities and income (often astoundingly enormous incomes) are derived from this standard biopsychiatry approach to managing painful (often terribly distressing and frightening) human problems.

      We hope we are contributing to making the truth known and that, someday, the proven, effective alternatives to the far too often destructive, standard paradigm of care will be available to those in need.

Contents of the Video (with three sample YouTube chapters)

  • The Soteria Movie Nightmare
  • Introducing Loren and Bob
  • The Disinvitation Phenomenon
  • The Secret of NIMH (Or How the Soteria Project Got Started)
  • How to Staff a Mental Hospital (The Structure of the Soteria Project).
  • “You Proved It Works, Now Go Away!”
  • The Birth of Biopsychiatry and The Death of Soteria
  • Magic Bullets vs. Tonics
  • Toxic Tonics vs. Six Weeks of Human Care
  • It’s Like Insulin for Diabetes” (A Very Successful, Fraudulent, Marketing Metaphor)

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"Insulin for Diabetes" &
Fixing Chemical Imbalances

Speakers (in order of appearance):

Bob Whitaker, author of "Mad in America"

Dan Kriegman, Ph.D., founder of Zuzu's Place

Loren Mosher, M.D., first Chief of Schizophrenia Studies at NIMH
  • Psychiatry Responds to the Hunger Strikers: “They Just Don’t Care”
  • Beyond Soteria: More Evidence of the Negative Effect of Neuroleptics
  • How to Ignore Reality (The Madrid Conference).
  • The Drug Pushers Are Users! (Well sort of): The SSRI’s and School Shooters

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SSRI's: Drug Pushers, Users, and School Shooters

Speakers (in order of appearance):

Loren Mosher, M.D., first Chief of Schizophrenia Studies at NIMH

Dan Kriegman, Ph.D., founder of Zuzu's Place

Bob Whitaker, author of "Mad in America"

  • Loren Does Thorazine.
  • A River of Denial: It Works for the Drug Companies.
  • And the Drugs Also Work . . . For the Families.
  • Filling Up Zuzu’s Place vs. Doing Something Different
  • Operating Outside of The System
  • First Contact: No Drugs = Malpractice.
  • First Contact: The Career of a “Schizophrenic” Begins.
  • The Need for Withdrawal Centers
  • Ersatz Evidence-Based Treatment
  • The True Nature of the“Right to Refuse” Forced Drugging.
  • We Have Replaced People with Pills (And It’s Not Even Cost-Effective!)
  • Money Talks: Big Pharma Buys Psychiatry (And Psychiatry Bites the Feeding Hand).
  • Meanwhile, Back at the FDA, the Fox Guards the Chicken Coop.
  • There Are Proven Alternatives, But Where’s the Profit?
  • One Size Does NOT Fit All (Drugs Destroy the 2/3 Who Would Otherwise Recover).
  • The Need for a System in which the Majority Would Recover
  • Why Soteria Has Not Been Recreated.
  • Tonic Use vs. Toxic Abuse (and Haldol Implants!)
  • Forced Ingestion of Toxins Is . . . Criminal!
  • But Aren’t the Neuroleptics Sometimes Curative? No! And There Are Proven Alternatives (Even in Crises).
  • Is It True that the Recovery Rate Is Higher in Third World Countries? The World Health Organization (WHO) Data
  • The WHO Data: Part II (Honest Party-Liners Uncover the Truth.)
  • How to Ignore the Meaning of the Uncovered Truth.
  • The Soteria Data Surprised Loren.
  • The Pharmacaust

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  • Not Knowing His Future, Loren Talks about What He Is Doing.
  • Where Has All the Evidence Gone, Long Time Passing? . . . Gone to Profits Everyone, Long Time Ago.
  • Inform Thyself !
  • Loren Mosher Tours Zuzu’s Place.
  • A Final Word

About the Speakers

Loren Mosher, M.D.

For over a decade, Dr. Loren R. Mosher held a central position in American psychiatric research.

He was the first Chief of the Center for Studies of Schizophrenia at the National Institute of Mental Health, 1969-1980. He founded the prestigious research journal, Schizophrenia Bulletin and for twelve years was its Editor-in-Chief. He led the Soteria Project.

The Soteria research demonstrated that there is a better way: A better way to treat the terrible afflictions that are often labeled "schizophrenia," "bipolar disorder," and various other psychoses that destroy the lives of so many young people. The Soteria research showed that the prevalent treatment focused on the use of powerful psychiatric drugs is a huge and tragic mistake. The psychiatric establishment was offended. Prestige and Money won. Truth and Integrity lost.

The success of Soteria and the relentless takeover of psychiatry by the drug industry was the reason that Dr. Mosher was marginalized and eventually forced to leave his key position in American psychiatry.

When Dr Mosher died in 2004, he was Director of Soteria Associates, San Diego, and Clinical Professor of Psychiatry, School of Medicine, University of California, San Diego.

Bob Whitaker's groundbreaking book, ''Mad in America''Robert Whitaker

Robert Whitaker has won numerous awards as a journalist covering medicine and science. In the past few years, he has won the George Polk Award for Medical Writing and a National Association for Science Writers’ Award for best magazine article. In 1998, he co-wrote a series on psychiatric research for the Boston Globe, which was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize for Public Service.

His book, Mad In America was named by Discover Magazine as one of the best science books of 2002; the American Library Association named it one of the best history books of that year. In Anatomy of an Epidemic (2010), Whitaker delves deeper into the problem in a book that is on track to becoming one of the most influential books about modern psychiatry. More recently, along with Lisa Cosgrove, he has written a powerful exposition of how the institution of psychiatry has been corrupted by guild interests and bribes from pharmaceutical companies: Psychiatry Under the Influence: Institutional Corruption, Social Injury, and Prescriptions for Reform (2015).

Daniel Kriegman, Ph.D.

One of the founders of Zuzu's Place, Dr. Kriegman is a psychologist who has specialized in the treatment of particularly "difficult" (i.e., dangerous and/or severely afflicted) patients. He was the Clinical Director for the Adolescent Rehabilitation Program, the inpatient unit for the most dangerous and disturbed, psychotic adolescents in the City of Boston. Later he was the Clinical Director at the Massachusetts Treatment Center for Sexually Dangerous Offenders, a correctional institution.

Dr. Kriegman has been qualified to testify as an expert witness in U.S. state and federal courts in hundreds of commitment proceedings involving the assessment of the danger posed by mentally disordered criminal offenders.

Over a period of many years, Dr. Kriegman struggled to reconsider the notions he had about the nature of what is typically labeled "psychosis." During this period he treated a psychotic patient who had spent most of her life (more than twenty five years) in mental institutions (including more than a year spent in mechanical restraints and/or locked door seclusion) where she was forced to take neuroleptic drugs. Dr. Kriegman treated her without drugs. Over the course of the twenty year treatment, the patient was hospitalized several times, but only briefly (less than four months total over the twenty years). It has been more than five years since the treatment ended and the patient has remained free of neuroleptic drugs, psychiatric hospitals, and psychotherapists.

Despite Dr. Kriegman's resistance, this patient was able to get him to read psychiatrist Peter Breggin's book, Toxic Psychiatry. But it was not until she got him to read Robert Whitaker's Mad in America that it became fully clear to him that psychiatrists and psychologists were destructively mistreating many of their patients because of a completely false marketing myth that has become the standard paradigm for understanding and treating severely disturbed emotional/cognitive states.

How to Order

To order the video, please make a contribution to Zuzu's Place; the recommended donation is $25 but we will accept whatever you are able to contribute. Send your tax-deductible donation to Zuzu's Place, c/o Daniel Kriegman, 20 Dorcar Road, Chestnut Hill, MA 02467. Include your email address with you donation and you will be provided with a link from which you will be able to download the full length video.

100% of the proceeds from the sale of the video will be used to fund Zuzu's Place or similar projects aimed at creating alternative interventions to the standard, biopsychiatry response to overwhelming emotional and cognitive distress.